I Tested India’s “Sovereign” Smartphone. What I Found Inside Is a Supply Chain Nightmare

Imagine you write an article about a phone. You get it out the box, you test it, but you feel like something’s off. So, you tell your readers, but then you receive a court order. You’re legally forced to take your content down. You’re banned from ever saying anything negative about that phone again, and so is everyone else. And suddenly, it all erupts into what can only be described as a war within the tech community. That would be crazy, right? Right. This is one of the most fascinating, alarming situations that I’ve ever seen on my 15 years analyzing technology. And it’s also currently a very real active legal case. So, the creators involved are not allowed to comment.

But BMathz will.

I’ve got the products. I’ve got the receipts. I’ve consulted the experts and people at the very heart of the situation. And if anyone wants to sue me, I’d love to see them try.

The Mirage of India’s “Sovereign” Smartphone

Quick context. India is the second biggest smartphone market on earth with over 700 million users. But at least two-thirds of the phones sold there from brands like Xiaomi and Vivo and Oppo are Chinese, which has created this massive opportunity for someone to come in and make a phone in India. Partly for the same reason that Brits love their made in Britain logo and Americans like to buy American. It would help Indians to support the economy of the country they live in, but also compounded by the fact that India and China don’t have the best relationship. Long story short, lots of border clashes and a lack of trust.

So over the years, a bunch of companies have tried. You’ve had Carbon, you’ve had Micromax, you’ve had Lava, all leaning into this national pride, plastering their marketing campaigns with this promise of made in India. But they’ve all failed to capture any kind of meaningful market share. Because ultimately, while their products might be assembled in India, they’re still designed in China. And if you’re going to buy a designed in China phone, then you might as well just buy it direct from a Chinese company like Xiaomi and get it even cheaper.

Which sets the stage for July 2025 when a new brand called AI Plus launches with the pitch of delivering India’s first fully sovereign smartphone. The marketing claimed it was expertly engineered and meticulously built in India. And they went one step further than the rest to say that it even prioritizes your privacy and securely stores your data in India. So any of your data that has to go online they’re saying will be securely stored in Google Cloud India regions.

This built-in India strategy is absolutely central to the entire case. So, it’s important to stress just how much they leaned into it. Like how it literally spells out on the boot screen of my AI plus phone here, “Your data stays safe in India.” Or how they said their phones are so secure that they are, and I quote, “certified for government,” all amplified by the CEO firing shots at other companies for not holding themselves to the same standards. Referring to other Indian brands, he said, “Made in India means little if software and updates come from abroad,” and then referring to the abundance of Chinese phones, “This foreign dominance raises critical concerns about data privacy.”

And if AI Plus hadn’t already made their stance extremely clear, then nothing summarizes it better than what I can only describe as their comic book strip of an advert. It starts with this poor Indian man who’s woken up to find that someone’s taken a large loan in his name without his consent. It attributes the fraud to a Chinese threat actor, explicitly warning that Chinese devices are not safe, and positioning the AI plus smartphone as the solution. I think I’ve read fortune cookies with more nuance, but you get the point.

Who is the Man Behind AI Plus?

So, you might be wondering who is this AI plus CEO? This Indian hero who’s about to show the Chinese who’s boss. BMathz takes a look at BMathz. A man with a very colored history of making phones. He was a sales director for OPPO in India. He then co-founded and became CEO of Realme. He ran that company for 5 years and by the time he left in 2023, it was the fourth biggest smartphone brand in the country. Then he went off to lead Honor in India, hopped over to Alcatel to do the same, until finally deciding to build his own phones with AI Plus.

So two things jump out to me. One that with work experience like that, I can’t think of a single person more qualified to start their own tech company. Then second is for someone who’s seemingly so vehemently against China, he sure has spent a lot of his career working for Chinese companies.

Now to be fair, I have to hand BMathz his flowers. The prices of the products that he’s launched seem really reasonable. Amongst other products, there were two phones. The Pulse, their 4G phone, starting at 4,499 rupees, and then the Nova, their 5G phone, starting at 7,499 rupees. Right now, that’s equivalent to $47 and $79. So, like, how wrong can this go?

The First Crack: Shared Software Roots

Well, the first crack appeared when one tech reviewer got his hands on the phone and posted an analysis. He highlighted that this supposedly brand new built-in India software, which the brand calls Next Quantum OS, does seem to look awfully similar to Realme’s operating system, which is definitely not built in India. That alone doesn’t prove anything. But it does make me wonder, if you were actually building a new Android skin from scratch for this brand new company you started, why would you not make it look different to what’s out there? Especially when what’s out there is the company that you used to run and are now competing against?

The Hidden Chinese Background Apps

And then that reviewer found three apps on the phone: Clean Assistant, Phone Clone, and Mobile Butler. Which, by the way, I also have on my phone. Clean Assistant, Phone Clone, and my Mobile Butler is called Phone Manager, presumably because it’s been updated since. These apps came pre-installed. You can’t disable them or uninstall them. And he asks, “How could they keep your data in India if they are actually Chinese apps?”

Why would he say that? Well, because when you pop into the privacy policy of Phone Clone, who else is listed but a China-based company, Sprocom Technologies, who’s very clearly spelled out as the service provider. I screen grabbed the entire policy and made it public in case you fancy a very long read. But the point is, you don’t have to scroll very far for it to raise some eyebrows:

“We may collect your personal information by one, information you provide directly to us, two, information we obtain automatically during your use of this application, and three, information we obtain from other sources.”

And then for the other two apps, there isn’t a privacy policy, but we managed to extract the app files, ping them off to a very smart Android researcher who’s chosen to remain anonymous. And this is what he said:

“All these three apps are built in China for sure. They just change the package name to make it look like they are built from scratch as part of next quantum OS.”

He followed this up with screenshots proving this fact.

Now, does this mean that your data is going to be sold to the highest bidder and the Chinese triads are about to knock on your door and ransom you to get it back? Probably not. Most apps collect data. But the point is, can this app guarantee that not a shred of your data leaves India, which is what’s being promised in no uncertain terms here? Well, that feels less certain.

Now, I’m going to be confronting  himself about these apps. But for now, what you need to know is that for saying what he said, that tech reviewer received a legal notice from the AI Plus company and his content has been geo-locked, meaning that I can still watch it here in the UK, but if we VPN over to India, you can see that you straight up can’t view it there. This is already pretty unheard of for a tech review.

Unmasking Sprocom: The Chinese ODM Connection

But this isn’t the shocking part. I was curious about this whole Sprocom thing. I’ve never heard of the company, but I also couldn’t help but feel like they were part of the bigger picture here. So, I had a browse and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a load of nonsense quite like it. There’s pages and pages of stuff like “connect with mind. Connect with mind.” Again, I’ve never read a more generic sounding company profile. And their company culture: “connect with mind.” Well, of course. And then their corporate mission is supposedly “connected intelligent intelligental.”

So, what on earth could this China-based company that can’t even spell intelligence have to do with our made in India smartphone that literally has intelligence in its name? I was about to quit, but then I stumbled into this page. Oh, Sprocom do make phones. And while this is not exactly this, it’s pretty hard to ignore the similarities. How aligned the camera module and the camera positioning is. How from the side and the bottom, these two feel like a mirror image. Not to mention how almost every spec, including the display, looks identical.

So, here’s what you need to understand. There are two ways to get a tech product made. You can either ideate it, design it, and own all the rights to it yourself, like Apple, for example, who then just hands over the brief to a contract manufacturer to do the building for them, to Apple’s exact spec. But the other option is to go to an ODM or original design manufacturer. This is a company who builds the products, but has also done the designing, the ideation, and often owns the rights to their designs, too. And so, all you do as a customer is request slight variations, get your logo added to it, and brand it as your own.

And so Sprocom, according to an official business report, is a Chinese ODM, which you know is not in itself unusual, but it does cast even more doubt on just how much of the imagining and building that AI Plus is actually doing themselves. To give you an idea, within just half an hour of digging, I managed to find four other supposed clients of this Sprocom company, and all of their phones look remarkably similar to ones on Sprocom’s site. So, when you look at this, how much does it look like Sprocom’s clients are really researching and developing themselves? And how much does it look like they’re largely just taking what Sprocom gave them?

And I’ve come to learn something else about Sprocom through a conversation with someone who’s, let’s just say, very high up and very involved in the Indian supply chain:

“Basically, you have different tiers of ODMs. So up there you have ODMs in the likes of Longcheer. They work with brands like OPPO, Vivo, Samsung. Then you also have good ODMs. They work with brands like Nothing or Moto. And then you have low tier ODMs. And those ODMs are known for making very very cheap products. This includes ODMs like Sprocom. There is no R&D involved. The product exists. What you do is just you customize slightly the back of the phone so that it looks a bit different. They cut a lot of corners. The way they make things very cost-efficient is having a very cheap supply chain. They use a lot of like second-hand components. The biggest opportunity is when it comes to the memory chips. For reference, for 64 GB memory, you’ll probably get around as low as $20 versus $60 if you are buying it new.”

I asked for clarification: “So people are buying a new product, but actually the memory chips inside are from used products?”

“Exactly.”

Given that in India specifically, there are tons of phones in that lower price bracket, I asked if that was probably the case with most of them.

“No, that’s the thing. If you look this year, whether it’s like OPPO, Vivo, they haven’t been launching any phones in that price point. Those players are the ones kind of working with the tier one ODMs I mentioned because they don’t do this type of like more dirty work.”

So, my takeaway from this is there’s actually two layers of dubiousness. On top of AI+’s already debatable claims about how Indian their products are, according to this insider, by buying a phone sourced from Sprocom, you’re also, ironically, getting a lower quality product than the Chinese companies that AI Plus is trying so hard to separate themselves from.

The Situation Explodes in 2026

But if everything we’ve seen so far has felt sus, then AI Plus’s wave 2 is where this situation just explodes. Because now we move into this year, 2026, where AI Plus launches their second set of products. One of them being the Pulse 2. That’s actually the one I’m holding here. And this time, clearly the creators are ready because one of them drops an article titled, “This Indian phone is a marketing disaster.”

Now, this content got taken down completely. It’s part of the evidence being used in the court case. I’m getting to that, but he accused the company of a few things. One of them being how it’s just a bit strange that the CEO has gone on the record to brag about the lack of bloatware: “First and foremost, no bloat wares.”

The bloatware still exists. It existed on his phone. It exists on my phone. It’s hidden from the app drawer, so you can only tell when you open up this game space hub. But this absolutely counts as bloatware by my definition. It’s preloaded. The games are spammy and ad-filled. Many people will not want them, and yet they are still taking up storage space. Again, BMathz has his own defense for this, but we’re getting to him.

More concerningly than bloatware though, the reviewer’s other claim is that you know the Chinese apps that were present on the first AI Plus phones that caused the entire scandal? Well, he said that all of those apps were actually still on the new phone. Two of them had now been hidden, but just by plugging into a laptop and entering a quick command, he could reveal them again. And then he finished off this piece by recapping all the companies that BMathz worked at, explaining that each one has deserted customers in some way and concludes that the biggest reason to not trust this phone or trust this entire company is the founder BMathz.

Five days after that, a second bombshell drops from another technology channel. And he goes even harder because as well as the AI Plus Pulse 2, one of the other new products launched was the Nova Flip. And he says that this phone is exactly the same phone as the Chinese ZTE Nubia Flip 2. He says they have the same battery processor, that the camera seems the same as a ZTE, and I can see why he’d say that. He didn’t actually have the phone in hand when publishing his analysis, but I do. And in fact, I can tell you this is a ZTE phone. I can see all sorts of apps and sensors with clearly labeled ZTE identifiers.

And here’s the thing. If anyone were to argue that maybe the links to China are fairly minor surface level on the pulse phones, I don’t think that can be argued for the flip. The compass app: ZTE. The AI engine: ZTE. The fingerprint service: ZTE. And we should probably at this point just register the 20 to 30 and sometimes more permissions given to these services.

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Anyway, the reviewer then goes on to say, “If you think it took me a lot of effort to find this flip phone example, it’s not like that.” He says, “Look into any of their products and you’ll find a Chinese copy.” And credit where credit’s due, I too found one in about 3 minutes of sleuthing. Their website has a download section here. So, that takes you to, I guess, the support page. Need help setting up your device? Well, screw you because that button doesn’t work. Good start. In fact, the one link on this page that actually does work is a link to the app for the kids watch that they sell. You click download: Lee Fine Technology. Lee Fine Technology doesn’t sound Indian. So, let’s search that up. Oh, would you look at that? Based in Shenzhen. And it’s not just a software thing. Yet again, the hardware on the Leifine website looks identical to the hardware that AI Plus is selling. So, very likely another ODM to add to the list.

But then the most curious example that was raised is the Wearbuds that AI Plus also launched—this watch that contains earphones inside of it, which BMathz said at the launch event was “the design which we have designed in India, patented in India.” The analysis claims this product too is in fact clearly just a product made by a Chinese company called AI Power. What on earth is happening here?

And this is super weird. If you go onto the official verified Instagram page of this Chinese AI Power company, they actually posted about the AI Plus launch event with the caption: “Wearbuds watch great cooperation with AI Plus brand.” If this product was designed entirely in India, why would a Chinese brand—and yes, I know they’re a Chinese brand because I asked them and they told me say “great cooperation”? And while we’re at it, doesn’t this AI Power logo look a little familiar? As a matter of fact, I’ve actually cut out the AI Plus logo here, and you can see that you can place the AI from AI Plus exactly on top of the AI in AI Power. Does that strike you as two companies who have nothing to do with each other? How many Chinese partners can this one anti-Chinese company have?

The Emergency Gag Order: Silence by Lawsuit

Fourteen days later, both of these critical videos disappeared from the internet. The Delhi High Court in India granted AI Plus an ex-parte injunction against the reviewers, which means that without hearing them first, the creators were now restrained from publishing disparaging content about AI Plus or BMathz. And there’s one more wrinkle: a third person was named, “John Doe.” This is the court’s way of also saying “unnamed future critic,” which means it’s the two original reviewers, but also anyone else that is banned from and could be charged for speaking against AI Plus. This clause has already led to legal action against at least 10 other analytical pieces.

That is a drastic response. So, I decided it’s time to call in a legal expert. I asked him to clarify what exactly an ex-parte case is:

“Ex-parte is where you are the only side going in front of the court. Only one side is presenting their case. And you can imagine in an adversarial system that relies on both parties being there that if you’re the only one in the court, it’s a whole lot easier to present your case than it is that the other side is contradicting the things that you are saying.”

Right. That makes sense. But then in what kinds of contexts are you expecting to see ex-parte?

“For example, a domestic violence restraining order often happen ex-parte because there are presumably real safety risks if both parties were there. So that’s an example of something where an ex-parte procedure is used more often.”

Yeah, that’s what’s confusing me. This isn’t that at all. This is a tech review where the reviewers have been critical to the brand but also the guy behind it.

“In the context of seeking an order preventing the disclosure of tech news or a tech news related thing, that would be basically unheard of.”

He explained that ex-parte, at least in the US, would require you to show irreparable harm and that if in this context any damages created could be solved by just paying someone money i.e. financial loss, then that wouldn’t count as irreparable. But that’s the US.

“I do know that the laws are very different between the United States in particular and India. In the United States, you basically cannot be held liable for defamation if what you’re saying is true. The laws in India are much more plaintiff friendly and they are much stricter to the point where sometimes even saying something that is true can give rise to a defamation claim.”

Okay, got it. So, given that I’m not in India, I’m going to give you my opinion, which is allowed here. I think that if you own a company and people are criticizing that company and you, then they’re entitled to that. If you disagree with them, I don’t think you should be able to go for an emergency gag order like this. That doesn’t mean you sit in silence. I think you should just publish your own statement. Explain why, and that message will find the audience that it needs to. In fact, you know what? That’s exactly what Carl Pei does whenever people roast his Nothing products. And I rate him for that.

Astroturfed Reviews and Copied Web Code

Okay, I feel like we’ve established how the product isn’t as Indian as we’ve been led to believe, and how this CEO has gone to an unprecedented extreme when called out for it. But before we take this all to the big man himself, I’ve been trying to figure out because this is very important when you’re assessing how guilty someone is—does this company deserve our benefit of the doubt?

Yeah, it’s a no from me, Chief.

It’s just interesting how across the web these phones were getting absolutely cooked, but on AI Plus’s own website, every single phone seems to have a flawless five-star review. And then you click into those reviews and you realize it’s a five-star review no matter what people are saying. Some people are literally just filling out support forms seemingly with questions like, “Where I buy now? Can you please guide me?” Yeah, that’s a glowing five-star review if I’ve ever seen one. And then you realize, oh wait, it doesn’t even matter if they’re actually saying it sucks. Like this comment here, it’s a five-star.

A lot of the reviews on Flipkart are just as organic: “The screen quality is great and the camera performs well.” “The display looks great and the camera is reliable.” “The display is sharp and the camera is solid.” It’s almost as if some of these reviews are generated, but no, surely not. Not from the company who has ended their official terms and conditions section with:

“Let me know if you’d also like a downloadable version, a version for your Shopify website’s policy page, or tailored clauses for international customers or B2B transactions.”

Oh, you guys starting to get the same picture that I am about this brand?

Or how do you remember that borderline problematic advert with the loan and the Chinese man? Does it feel just a little bit ironic that with an ad like that, this AI Plus site also reads:

“You while providing your personal information over the platform, consent to us and other third parties like credit bureaus to contact you through SMS, instant messaging apps, call and/or email.”

And worse still, if we smack this same link into the Wayback Machine, it used to specifically spell out “personal loans.” Whoops.

I could keep going. A lot of the marketing material appears not entirely original. They’ve posted photos claiming to be taken on their phones that every photographer I have sent them to has confidently said is basically not possible.

Confronting BMathz Face-to-Face

But ultimately, I decided we have enough questions now that we need to take them to the CEO himself. Now, I have actually called BMathz once already, but what he said was so confusing. It felt like he was constantly changing his mind as he was speaking. So, I’ve taken everything he said, I’ve distilled it down to the key things that I think really matter in this case, and now it’s time to lay it all out in front of him to really properly in one go confront him.

Right. Let’s do this. Yesterday, I think the AI Plus website went down. Did that have something to do with our conversation?

“Yeah, I’m removing everything. I’m redoing it. I put up after your feedback, I put up about a special team, hired a website agency on the weekend.”

Well, I noticed when the website was launched again, the reviews section was gone. I was happy to see that. So, the website did suck, but at least he’s taken the feedback and started actioning it pretty quickly between our first and second conversation. We were off to a good start.

I pressed him further: “One of the main reasons your brand exists is you’re trying to, you know, build things in India from now. A part of it from what I understand is that you’ve also expressed a lot of concern about Chinese phones. What exactly makes these Chinese phones a risk in your mind?”

“Chinese phones are not a risk in my mind.”

“Okay…”

“Let’s divide economy and consumers first. They are not risk to the consumers. I’m talking about the economy wherein the revenues and the technology transmit the technology knowhow from last 10 years intentionally or non-intentionally has not been transferred to India.”

“Okay. But then this advert, it’s implying very strongly that Chinese phones are not safe, AI plus… this advert is made for a consumer, right?”

“Yeah there were 300 Chinese apps which are banned in India and it was a app which was basically for small loans or for a fintech loans and there were a lot of suicide cases around it. So if you’re talking about an particular ad I’m just an 8 months old brand. I would have made a lot of mistakes and I admit to the lot of mistakes which I would have made it.”

“So would you say this advert is an example of a mistake?”

“I would not say that that’s a complete mistake.”

“You stand by the ad.”

“You stand by it.”

Okay. So he says the ad is fine because it’s based off a bunch of real Chinese apps that did cause people to lose money. But still, for more reasons than one, I don’t think this is the kind of messaging that anyone should be doubling down on.

Moving past that though, in our first interview, we asked BMathz about the three Chinese apps that were found on their phones. Were they real? And he said:

“Yes there were but that was not on the Indian version that was on the global version for Nepal for Indonesia and for Sri Lanka and every other countries which I’m testing”

“So you’re saying that no one who buys one of these phones in India will get any of these apps, but I need to ask you that because I’m holding one of them bought in India and I have these apps.”

I feel like as soon as I revealed that I too was holding the phone, BMathz kind of pivoted:

“Which version are you holding it in That is what I have to check. I’m again saying you yes I’m not saying no. This were probably the initial testing units not at all possible.”

“So specifically, in a really concise way, what are you suggesting has happened here? Why do I still have these apps on my phone?”

“See I just have to check the kernel source has been picked or not. I do not have the device with me. I do not know what exactly has happened until unless I see the device.”

“What do you think has happened given that I can guarantee you this phone has come out of the box? It’s been booted up and it’s been connected to Wi-Fi.”

“See, I’m again telling you I really need to check the software and version five you are saying is a December 25 software which is from some small account which was never a software which was ever there. That is the reason I have to check what has happened is it been tweaked”

“But you’re saying that, and you’ve told me this before as well, that launch devices don’t have these Chinese apps on them. Is that right?”

“Yeah. All the current devices which have been launched they do not have any Chinese apps. Pulse 2 as well. Nova 2.”

“I’m talking about Ultra which I just recently launched.”

“What about the Pulse 2? Does that have Chinese apps?”

“No, they don’t not have 110%. They should not have it.”

“Okay. So, what would you say then if I say I’ve got mountains of evidence of your own customers on Flipkart who all show images of these apps on their phones, including content from all over the place, online tutorials?”

“That’s what I’m trying to tell you, right? I’m not sure that you know again I have not gone through that content what you’re saying what I said guarantees about Nova 2 and Nova ultra I definitely guaranteed that right”

I wanted to show him something right then. So, I didn’t tell him this, but as well as the Pulse 2 and the Nova flip phone, I also have one of the Nova 2s that he’s so insistent is completely Sprocom-free. Yes, I hired someone to buy a lot of phones for me. But guess what? The first time I booted it up, it had all three Chinese Sprocom apps installed. Now, there was an update and sure enough, when I installed it, the apps did disappear.

But him sitting there acting like I’m absolutely crazy for suggesting that these apps were on at least some of his phones at launch, when I’ve seen them across like 30 different sources at this point, is not the problem that I thought I’d be having. Not to mention that even with those apps gone on my Nova, the software still references an internal “Spro weather clock”—I wonder what Spro stands for.

“Can you just do me one favor? If you can just tell your person to buy a new device in India and open up and check it because I also want to understand is that very real? Yes or no? I’m more than willing because I also want to go through it. If I made a mistake, I will admit it.”

“But do you understand why that’s quite hard for me to get behind given that this was the predominant message in the original reviews that have been forced to be taken down, right? Is that these Chinese apps exist? You’re definitely aware of this situation. Why is it that now you’re telling me, ‘Oh, if this is a problem, I’ll look into it’?”

“No, I was also telling the same thing to them. It was not that it was only about the Chinese apps. But at the same time, what phone software which you are telling me right now, that version was never existing, which you are telling me right now. It has never been existed. I’ve checked all the records. It has never been existed.”

What does it mean for software to have never existed before? I will spare you the full conversation here, but basically I spent 15 full minutes trying to see if I can get BMathz to admit that just something is wrong here that needs internal investigation. It’s blatantly obvious to me, but he just kept insisting that the software on my phone didn’t exist. And I still don’t understand what that means. Of course it exists. I’m stuck on it.

The Blind Spot of Cheap Supply Chains

Now whether or not this is the reason for the lack of updates, this absurd inconsistency between what he seems to think is on the phones versus what actually is does line up very well with what the industry insider warned us about:

“Because the biggest issue is also on the quality control. They will be okay with a certain level of defects. When you handle second-hand components, you know, when you kind of realize that one component or one phone has a defect, you cannot trace the initial batch to understand where the problem is from and how you can fix it.”

I myself have bought one of these phones from Flipkart to test it and I’m not seeing any kind of software update. They’re telling us that there should be some sort of March software update. I’ve only got December. Could this lack of quality control be the reason that some people are not getting the software update which should get rid of these Chinese apps? Oh yeah, of course. I mean 100%.

Oh, also do you know how BMathz asked me to buy another device to check? Well, I did. I bought two more on his request. I asked our local contact to get one from Flipkart and one from Amazon in India. And would you believe it, even those phones, both of them bought in India, set up in India, had all the Chinese apps still there and no update available. So, the last thing I’m going to say about this Chinese app situation is either BMathz is incredibly, alarmingly unaware of the state of his own devices or he’s gaslighting me, and I don’t know which one is worse.

Anyway, in the last call, I also brought up the topic of bloatware. Now, one of the main selling points of this phone, you’ve talked about it in your podcast quite a bit, is you’re trying to kind of erase bloatware. When you go into the game space, you do see a bunch of preloaded games. And I wanted to ask…

“My friend, I I don’t think so is there the final version anymore. It’s not there. During the December, we were testing multiple hundreds of softwares and games on a particular device. you will see some bloodware free only as of now right and we like to keep that way itself there’s no gaming app there’s no nothing”

“You said to me, and tell me if I’m understanding this right, that on launch software all the bloatware is gone.”

“Yeah everything”